John Cleese does a remarkable job explaining the basis of how to be creative.
And at the end he makes the best explanation to date of how the Church of Scientology operates.
John Cleese does a remarkable job explaining the basis of how to be creative.
And at the end he makes the best explanation to date of how the Church of Scientology operates.
62 thoughts on “Creativity vs Scientology”
Good materiel, Geir. So then, how about some really free-wheeling suggestions on how to get THE COB to become even MORE serious, than he already is??? 🙂
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— You hat better be zere!! Uzzerwise, you vill chust foreffer remain a neophytic, useless, Shermanite uf no substance votsoeffer!! ”
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— We guarantee it will have you growing in places you never even dreamed possible!”
“I am prepared to make you an offer you just cannot refuse! I can arrange to have the heads of Marty, Mike, Tony, Paulette, and every F%&*#@% Asshole C*$&-S*$(#@, severed & served to you on a platinum platter, for just one night spent with me!
Great video. The description of creativity not only made sense from the viewpoint of experience (which probably everybody has had), it also parallels quantum physics!
He says you go into “open mode”, where you are open to original and intuitive ideas- which, I to me, means you are in tune with a “field” of knowingness. And from “open”, you switch to “closed mode” – by making a decision. I see this as the same mechanism as collapse of the wavefunction in quantum physics: In “open mode” you have the mind in its probability phase – and when a decision is made, you have the equivalent of “taking a measurement” and thus collapsing the wavefunction.
Btw, the speaker, John Cleese, gave a great demonstration of creativity in the speech itself – having a very light touch with lots of humor.
Good X-pansion, M. It certainly strengthens the pleasingly simplistic concept, that we DO, in fact, operate on binary choice decisions. — ie, “Closed vs Open” modality, as a ‘serious’ (massy) vs ‘insouciant’ (light-hearted) approach, in dealing with life’s challenges. As in the Alfred Hitchcock reference, ‘Play’ is vital, to balance seriousness!
Hi, C. I think you picked up on the key point – that “play is vital to balance seriousness.” Both are needed. With play, you allow creativity to come into the picture – and then, when you make a decision, there would be more seriousness.
Eckhart Tolle says basically the same thing as John Cleese is saying as regards “open” mode time – but Eckhart calls it a moment of “spaciousness” or “stillness” or being in the present, the Now. And he too says that this is where creativity enters the picture. I didn’t see it before but now I think that, also like John Cleese, he is essentially describing a “probability phase” of the mind. Btw, I even read somewhere that scientists are now thinking that the brain operates like a quantum computer.
Here’s a video of Eckhart’s that is quite similar to the video Geir posted:
Sure, M. Of course, our beautifully rigged, 180 degree reverse vector universe, has actually being playing a practical joke upon many of us, all along!! 🙂 It has basically been fooling with our intrinsic awareness, by supplying an invisible, undetectable ‘force field’ that wraps everything we human ‘species’ come to view, as ‘serious”!!!! 🙂
Most other life forms on the planet – don’t get that treatment, now do they? LOL.
I’d take it even further and say that most (if not all) other life forms operate exclusively in resonance with the “undetectable field”. 😉
Exactly the point, M! 🙂
It is WE who have come to juxtapose our ‘amazing’, ‘lauded’ intelligence, in lieu of the more ‘basic’ reliance of our fellow earthlings!
In fact, the extremely detectable (?) somberness in John Cleese’s demeanor, suggests that he is only too well aware of our shortcomings in that regard. 😦
A little chink in our ‘oh-so-necessary-armor’… to sober us up, perhaps? 🙂
Here we go, Cal. I found this video where Eckhart Tolle explains that animals are at a state of consciousness that is “PRIOR to the arrival of thought”, and this has similarities to but is not the same as the state of PRESENCE – the state of Presence goes “BEYOND thinking”,and that is where we are going. In some ways, though, dogs are more connected with BEING than we as humans are.
Btw, if you remember, LRH said in The Factors: “There IS beingness, but Man believes there is only becomingness.”
Once again, take a bow for acuity, M, dear razor-sharp one! 😉
That was an interesting parallel to QM 🙂
Yes, that was exciting to take note of! And I’m not surprised that you liked the idea too. 😉
I see I wrote “probability phase” of the thetan, but it should have been “probabilistic phase”, which I believe is the way 2ndxmr worded it on some of his postings here that had to do with his model of memory. He gets total credit for getting me to think along these lines, but I don’t recall that besides memory he also tied in creativity with the QM function of the mind. So it was fun to note that, in essence, this was expressed in the video. Enlightening stuff!
Geir, when I was looking through *Science of Survival* just now, I came across the following regarding “creative imagination”.
“There are three types of imagination. One is creative imagination, whereby in the field of aesthetics the urges and impulses of the various dynamics are interwoven into new scenes and ideas. The second type is the more or less practical type of imagination which comes about as a result of computation. Without this second type of imagination an individual could. Not forecast the future nor could he postulate a goal desirable in the future. This type of imagination is so vital to computation that the individual who lacks it can be seen to be definitely deficient analytically. The third type of imagination is delusionary or hallucinatory. If the culture desires to make itself more sane, it would cease to apply the word “imaginary” to things which are delusionary of hallucinatory. Delusion connotes a type of imagination which is not known by the individual to be imaginary.”
The description of creative imagination, where “urges and impulses of the various dynamics are interwoven into new scenes and ideas” – as compared to the second type of imagination, “the more or less practical type of imagination which comes about as a result of computation” is again the difference between what I think is a QM type of thinking as opposed to ordinary analytical or linear thinking. The QM type would be where the overall probabilities – in other words, the various possibilities – are viewed. In other words, it’s where one “looks” (to use the term used by the speaker in the video) in an instinctive or intuitive way in order to arrive at a creative decision and to collapse it into reality in the form of an idea. Just thought I would share this reference with you FWIW.
Note: there was a punctuation error in what I quoted from the pdf copy of SOS that I got online. I meant to correct this part:
“Without this second type of imagination an individual could. Not forecast the future nor could he postulate a goal desirable in the future.”
Obviously, it should have been just one sentence, like this: “Without this second type of imagination an individual could not forecast the future nor could he postulate a goal desirable in the future.”
Thanks, Marildi. Your references communicated quickly and concisely, as intended.
(I never pay any attention to grammatical errors, btw. Unless they’re in a LEGAL letter, of course!! 🙂 )
Min: 33:54: “Your dignity is no laughing matter”. The essence of the whole speech if you ask me…Great video, full of common sense. And I like the tonality voice too…
On the subject of how the church operates, here’s Marty and Mike – formerly two of the highest ranking execs in the church, who worked directly with Miscavige. They are looking back at how he ran things – and laughing about it. 🙂
Geir, of course it’s (always) fun to get titillated by the little deviations that arise on any OP, what with the personal foibles and peculiarities we hold as individuals! (There’s that ‘Open’ mode concept, making itself felt on your blog, hey? 🙂 )
However, though I appreciate where you’re coming from, the emphasis you placed on CREATIVITY vs Scientology, need not necessarily be mutually exclusive
Bringing any being into a position where their self determinism and awareness are markedly increased, demonstrably increases their creativity… of this, there can be little doubt. (ie: the tools of Scn being applied as originally intended — vs the insane use of the tools in the hands of those with corrupted intent!!))
Where it all goes ‘pear-shaped’, imho — is when that is not recognized as an inalienable RIGHT to a freedom gained ( an EP, which should NOT be tampered with!!)
Real freedom, to me, equates to the capacity for uninhibited creativity in abundance! 🙂
There is that potential in Scientology, but the way Hubbard ran the subject, he demonstrably squashed any creativity from any other source. So one may wonder whether he himself really saw that potential
Yes, Geir. Methinks that he felt that he personally had run out the idea of just simply enjoying ‘play’ (for its own sake), which was much more evident in the 50’s. He certainly appeared to become noticeably ‘battle weary’ after that period, as evidenced by his slipping down into the anger band, with all of it’s destructive consequences. 😦
…. Btw, I also see it as just fair to mention, that if we were prepared to walk a mile in the Ol’ man’s shoes, would duplication then be possible with this, Geir 🙂
Geir, did you read my recent postings about the Enneagram personality types? The knowledge of these types has been around for thousands of years and were discovered by teachers in many different cultures all over the world. Apparently, these basic “types” have a lot of validity and are currently being utilized in many different fields, from mental health practitioners to large corporations – including by some of the largest and most successful.
As synchronicity would have it, just tonight I was wondering what type LRH was – and I decided he was probably a Seven, “The Enthusiast”. Take a look at the excerpt below, from one of the sites on Enneagrams. It describes Type Seven starting from a healthy state and gradually deteriorating to an unhealthy one, as a sort of scale.
I believe LRH started out at the top of this scale and ended up at the bottom. We could debate all the possible reasons for his downward plunge – but the bottom line is that he, like anybody, was a human being who had his faults. And I think Calvin made a good point about “walking a mile in his shoes”. Even Marty admitted that LRH was under incredibly heavy attack from many very powerful quarters – all documented in FOIA records – and that it was a remarkable feat that he was even able to keep Scientology from being completely destroyed.
You wrote: “So one may wonder whether he himself really saw that potential.”
Getting back to the Enneagram personality types, in my view, LRH’s basic motives – at least the original ones, before he went downhill – were to accomplish something beneficial for all. So yes, “he himself really saw that potential”. Below is the “scale” for Type Seven, “The Enthusiast” – which I think describes LRH (emphasis in caps is mine):
1. (At Their Best) Assimilate experiences in depth, making them deeply grateful and appreciative for what they have. Become awed by the simple wonders of life: joyous and ecstatic. Intimations of spiritual reality, of the boundless goodness of life.
2. Highly responsive, excitable, enthusiastic about sensation and experience. MOST EXTROVERTED TYPE: STIMULI BRING IMMEDIATE RESPONSES—THEY FIND EVERYTHING INVIGORATING. LIVELY, VIVACIOUS, EAGER, SPONTANEOUS, RESILIENT, CHEERFUL.
3. EASILY BECOME ACCOMPLISHED ACHIEVERS, GENERALISTS WHO DO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS WELL: MULTI-TALENTED. PRACTICAL, PRODUCTIVE, USUALLY PROLIFIC, CROSS-FERTILIZING AREAS OF INTEREST.
4. As restlessness increases, want to have more options and choices available to them. Become adventurous and “worldly wise,” but less focused, constantly seeking new things and experiences: the sophisticate, connoisseur, and consumer. Money, variety, keeping up with the latest trends important.
5. Unable to discriminate what they really need, become hyperactive, unable to say “no” to themselves, throwing self into constant activity. Uninhibited, doing and saying whatever comes to mind: STORYTELLING, FLAMBOYANT EXAGGERATIONS, WITTY WISE-CRACKING, PERFORMING. Fear of being bored: in perpetual motion, but do too many things—many ideas but little follow through.
6. Get into conspicuous consumption and all forms of excess. Self-centered, materialistic, and greedy, NEVER FEELING THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH [this was confirmed by David Mayo, who said that LRH told him he just couldn’t get enough money]. Demanding and pushy, yet unsatisfied and jaded. Addictive, hardened, and insensitive.
4. Desperate to quell their anxieties, can be impulsive and infantile: do not know when to stop. Addictions and excess take their toll: debauched, depraved, dissipated escapists, offensive and abusive.
5. In flight from self, acting out impulses rather than dealing with anxiety or frustrations: go out of control, into erratic mood swings, and compulsive actions (manias).
6. Finally, their energy and health is completely spent: become claustrophobic and panic-stricken. OFTEN GIVE UP ON THEMSELVES AND LIFE: deep depression and despair, self-destructive overdoses, impulsive SUICIDE. Generally corresponds to the Bipolar disorder and Histrionic personality disorder.
Basic Fear: Of being trapped and in pain
Basic Desire: To be satisfied and content—to have their needs fulfilled
Enneagram Seven with a Six-Wing: “The Entertainer”
Enneagram Seven with an Eight-Wing: “The Realist”
– See more at: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-7/#sthash.QVEiFnyL.dpuf
I read your comments on this subject. I did the test a few years back – can’t remember what type I was. But – I have come to the conclusion that one should try to avoid personality tests altogether. For a number of reasons… one being that classifying people leaves out much of a person. It simplifies and reduces a person and it replaces natural evaluation of another. I should probably write a blog post on this.
As for LRH, I doubt that he ever really wanted other’s creativity to “get in his way”. He seemed to squash the creativity of others from the very beginning. He never lifted others to shine in comparison with his own infalted sef-image.
“…classifying people leaves out much of a person. It simplifies and reduces a person and it replaces natural evaluation of another.”
I’m sure there’s truth to that. However, from what I’ve read – and observed in people – I also believe there is ample evidence that there are in fact certain basic world views. And knowing about them can shed light on the attitudes and behavior of other people – as well as oneself – in the sense of being able to understand others and ourselves, better. But like anything, one should remain “open”, so you make a good point.
As another example, look how well the Type Eight describes David Miscavige, and I think it helps understand where he’s coming from and where he’s headed – what may have once been his best and what is now probably his worst. Marty said in a recent interview that DM was not too work around in the earlier years, but that he is now a psychopath. Note that at the very bottom of this list is “Antisocial Personality”:
1. (At Their Best) Become self-restrained and magnanimous, merciful and forbearing, mastering self through their self-surrender to a higher authority. Courageous, willing to put self in serious jeopardy to achieve their vision and have a lasting influence. May achieve true heroism and historical greatness.
2. Self-assertive, self-confident, and strong: have learned to stand up for what they need and want. A resourceful, “can do” attitude and passionate inner drive.
3. Decisive, authoritative, and commanding: the natural leader others look up to. Take initiative, make things happen: champion people, provider, protective, and honorable, carrying others with their strength.
4. Self-sufficiency, financial independence, and having enough resources are important concerns: become enterprising, pragmatic, “rugged individualists,” wheeler-dealers. Risk-taking, hardworking, denying own emotional needs.
5. Begin to dominate their environment, including others: want to feel that others are behind them, supporting their efforts. Swaggering, boastful, forceful, and expansive: the “boss” whose word is law. Proud, egocentric, want to impose their will and vision on everything, not seeing others as equals or treating them with respect.
6. Become highly combative and intimidating to get their way: confrontational, belligerent, creating adversarial relationships. Everything a test of wills, and they will not back down. Use threats and reprisals to get obedience from others, to keep others off balance and insecure. However, unjust treatment makes others fear and resent them, possibly also band together against them.
4. Defying any attempt to control them, become completely ruthless, dictatorial, “might makes right.” The criminal and outlaw, renegade, and con-artist. Hard-hearted, immoral and potentially violent.
5. Develop delusional ideas about their power, invincibility, and ability to prevail: megalomania, feeling omnipotent, invulnerable. Recklessly over-extending self.
6. If they get in danger, they may brutally destroy everything that has not conformed to their will rather than surrender to anyone else. Vengeful, barbaric, murderous. Sociopathic tendencies. Generally corresponds to the Antisocial Personality Disorder.
Basic Fear: Of being harmed or controlled by others
Basic Desire: To protect themselves (to be in control of their own life and destiny)
Enneagram Eight with a Seven-Wing: “The Maverick”
Enneagram Eight with a Nine-Wing: “The Bear”
– See more at: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-8/#sthash.uerbE2gw.dpuf
Correction. It should read: Marty said in a recent interview that DM was not too BAD to work around in the earlier years
Having evaluated more than 6000 OCA tests an a span of more than 10 years and having extensively tested dozens of personality test and read tons on the subject, I have come to the firm conclusion that they generally do more harm than good. Whenever a person gets some graph of another, that graph really tend to replace sound judgement. Now if the person’s judgement is poor, then a test may do well in replacing that – BUT that also replaces a person’s inclintaion to improve his judgement. It robs him of potential anti-fragility.
Geir: “Now if the person’s judgement is poor, then a test may do well in replacing that – BUT that also replaces a person’s inclination to improve his judgement.”
I would say that it depends. So far, at least, I see that particular personality test (the Enneagram) as giving a person a good basis on which to begin forming his own judgement about people.
I think you’d agree that judgement comes about with personal experience, but that it usually starts with learning what you can from the accumulated knowledge and experience of others. Especially if that knowledge has been discovered (or UNcovered – if it is fundamental to existence) by individuals from many different cultures over a long period of time – like thousands of years. That seems to be the case for the Enneagram system, from what I’ve read, but not so for the OCA. The OCA has a certain value as a tool but its use is limited – and it was not developed in Scientology or intrinsic to its fundamental principles or tech.
That said, either extreme – fully adopting a datum, system or ideology without evaluating and learning to judge it for oneself, OR rejecting it without determining for oneself what its worth actually is – neither of these would be wise. At least not from my point of view, as I don’t feel it necessary that I be the original source of all my ideas. That’s not my worldview. 🙂
In other words, I don’t think we necessarily have to “reinvent the wheel” and take all the same “knocks and blows” that others have already taken, in order to acquire knowledge and eventually judgement. HOWEVER, if a person did take that route, he would no doubt reduce his fragility – and that probably has tremendous value IN THE LONG RUN. I’d say it depends which path indicates to the individual as the one s/he would like to travel. Which gradient – a more gradual hike on a winding path up the mountain or scaling it in a more direct way.
And with that, I’ve come full circle back to the basic principle of the Ennegram – which is that there exist a limited number specific ways to approach life, or basic worldviews. And each individual is primarily operating on one of them. starting from early childhood.
Not that it is a rigid system, however – people aren’t purely of one type but rather have incorporated other types as well, along the way. The point is that it’s a lens to begin looking at the different ways that life can be approached – and thus to better understand ours and others’ built-in assumptions about life. I have found it amazing how well it describes several people I know – and they too have also found it amazingly accurate about themselves!
I wholeheartedly disagree. More in a blog post later.
Another informative piece, M! Thank you.
Lends weight to the validity of ‘infinity valued logic’ — where many states can be shown to occur on a definite position of ‘a scale’, as determined by consistent recurrence. (subject to further tests for accuracy, of course!)
I have worked with THAT (emotional) tone scale, consistently for over 43 years, (almost as a pianist would do, with daily practice of the range of key board notes and sonatinas, for the sake of accuracy and certainty. It has not yet failed failed me, in recognizing what ‘suit of emotional clothes’ I’m dealing with — to date! 🙂 )
This is one thing I really like about you, C. You have taken the approach of very thoroughly examining for yourself the most basic principles of Scientology. And your conceptual understanding comes through in your words! 😉
Nice to have your validation there, M. Much appreciated too! 🙂
As a matter of fact, in 1971, I pursued THAT resounding piece of LRH ‘discovery’, (The Tone Scale) to a level of interest, where I did the full range of the scale (up to that date), in little clay figurines, and mounted them on a specially made ledge, and in an ascending level of brightness. From the most depressing of specially mixed, dark grey
– ‘8.0 — Hiding’, all the way up to a shimmering pearlescent golden ‘champagne’ color, of the ‘ethereal’ ‘40.0 — Serenity of Beingness’.
I had earlier, reworked the Art of the well known Tone Scale Chart, embellishing the colors, to what I thought more befitting of the tone. This, (of course) color matched the figurines, for quicker comparisons (2-dimension, to 3!)
It certainly made for the most ‘bizarre’ mix you might find in any young dude’s bedroom!
(So much so, that my now late Mom, insisted that I keep the bedroom door closed, to avoid embarrassment via any visitors! LOL!)
On the gleaming oregon pine floor, in one corner of my room, mounted on a triangular stand, stood the factory built, race tuned TD1-C Yamaha, minus the streamlined fairing, which was left parked against the wall, with the leather racing suit draped over it.
The smell of adrenalin charging ‘Castrol-R’, leaving no doubt that one was in the presence of a full blooded race track machine! The engine was modified for the latest factory developments, and I was most fortunate to have the front wheel and 4-‘leading shoe’ brakes off the six time world champion’ Jim Redman’s Honda 6-cylinder!
(Btw, it took all of 3 separate jobs, to be able afford the massive privateer racing costs!)
— So, me heart, I hope you can see that for me, it was all about pursuing ‘the dreams’, in the most fulfilling manner possible– within the means I had available (Adrenalin, and an excess of enthusiasm) 🙂
Hi, Calvin. Sorry for the late reply. It has been a busy holiday weekend here in the US of A (4th of July, Independence Day).
What a delightful post you wrote! And funny too. Fascinating mixture you were as a young man. And boy was I right when I observed how thoroughly you studied basics like the tone scale! I hope you still have those awesome-sounding figurines.
You wrote: “So, me heart, I hope you can see that for me, it was all about pursuing ‘the dreams’, in the most fulfilling manner possible– within the means I had available (adrenalin, and an excess of enthusiasm). ”
I most definitely can see that! You reminded me of the following from *Science of Survival* (the “bible” on the tone scale) chapter titled “Persistence on a Given Course”:
“It has been advanced that there are two kinds of individuals, so far as persistence is concerned. The individual who has sufficient theta endowment and sufficient structural ability [with which to be intelligent] to keep his free theta and his enturbulated theta relatively separate may have a good persistence level even when the factors and conditions in his environment are such that they continually hammer him away from his given course of action. The other type would be the person who is knocked by life from one course to another and who will persist on any given course only so long as no new factor introduces itself.”
Thanks, me heart, for sharing this part of yourself. 🙂
p.s. I should add that you are most definitely the first type described in that SOS quote! 😉
Och, lassie, (blush, blush…) Noooo y’ve poooot m’ on the spot! Whitttt t’ saaaay t’ the in’telllllectuuuual ??? Nevv’rr mynnnd, me hearrrt, I’m hooop’n y’ve had eyy winderrr’ful Holliday, maaayk’nn the mos’t ‘f ‘it deaaarrr lasssie?? 🙂
Oh, and back to pt! — Again thanks for all the credits and validations — that really was just a blast of reminiscence on my part . And no, all those ‘art’-ifacts from way back? — now distant memories that sprung to life upon your interest. Vivid recalls, of another time and place. — A spritzer for the soul, mate! 🙂
Oh… and you do realize, of course, you’re going to have to reciprocate on this, I hope?
— A little smidgen of your earlier forays into actualizing those early dreams of yours?
C’mon, girl! It IS good for the soul… I promise!! 🙂
“…that really was just a blast of reminiscence on my part… Vivid recalls, of another time and place.”
And your vivid descriptions brought it all back to life! I have to quote you on at least this part:
“On the gleaming oregon pine floor, in one corner of my room, mounted on a triangular stand, stood the factory-built, race-tuned TD1-C Yamaha – minus the streamlined fairing, which was left parked against the wall, with the leather racing suit draped over it.
“The smell of adrenalin charging ‘Castrol-R’, left no doubt that one was in the presence of a full-blooded racetrack machine! The engine was modified for the latest factory developments, and I was most fortunate to have the front wheel and 4 ‘leading shoe’ brakes of the six-time world champion Jim Redman’s Honda 6-cylinder!”
That whole post was one nice piece of writing – and don’t tell me I’m just flattering you, because the above quote is the evidence. It’s easy to see that when you’re inspired – as with the tone scale and your beloved Yamaha – that you could be a writer with some flair! I made a few small editing changes (technicalities) because it was so professional that as a copy editor, I couldn’t resist polishing it off. If you ever decide to do some writing, let me know. We’ll talk. 😉
Okay Hon, I’ll let you know. 🙂 But you’re not going to sneak off that easily!!
C’mon then. Just a smidgen, to whet the appetite? Reciprocation, you know? 🙂
Well, sugar, who in their right mind would want to follow what you wrote! 🙂
Tell you what, I’ll share a more recent win that’s related in part to the tone scale. What I had already realized long since was that a person can directly sense the tone level of someone. This is because, as you know, tone levels are simply vibrations – and they can be perceived directly as such.
The same is true of thoughts, which are also energy manifestations. If you haven’t guessed yet, I’m talking about telepathy. The two videos below are mainly about telepathy with animals, but also about telepathy between humans – which is actually no different with regard to how it’s done.
And incidentally, the approach to animals that this woman takes is a whole new paradigm! You’ll see what I mean.
The first video should pique your interest. It’s the story of a very disturbed black leopard who got introduced to “the magic of communication”. The second vid gets into telepathic communication between other species and humans, and also within a species – including between humans. Enjoy!
Guarded, as ever, my dearest M. 🙂 Never mind, the public arena certainly produces reluctance in the very best of us (that would be you, not me, you see! 🙂 )
Accepting your substituted offering, which I do with gratitude, nevertheless has succeeded in engendering the pique of which you thpoke!
A remarkable experience all round. Jurg and his wife Karen are an Afrikaans conservationist couple, whom I have seen featured on earlier local TV programs.
Anna Breytenbach would have been raised in an affluent bi-lingual (Afrikaans and English) family here in South Africa, and from her speech, is an extremely articulate person. Her communication is perceptibly pure, and the telepathy as natural as it can be seen to flow — effortlessly, without any impediments of any kind. Beautiful in its unpretentious simplicity.
We do go there. We do have these experiences. We know they’re actual. We all need to explore our “shoeniverses”, by being willing to assume and receive the beingness of one another.
Will we? 🙂
See my reply a few posts down. I wanted the video to be larger so you could more clearly see the cat trying to fly!
Btw, Geir, have you read Janet Reitman’s “Inside Scientology” ?
I feel, that as a non-scn, she had done a remarkable job of presenting a very balanced view of the entire subject of scn, including the ol’ man.
What is even more remarkable (to me at least) is her total lack of bias, either way.
It is a rare individual indeed, who can manage such a feat without emotional sway!
— I put it down to that rare quality possessed by an even rarer few:
— The simple willingness to ‘duplicate’. 🙂
I haven’t read any book on Scientology for years – not Janet’s or any of Marty’s, Sweeny’s, Going Clear, The Complex, My Billion Year Contract, Blown For Good. I just can’t muster the interest. I have left the subject with whatever I have of useful knowledge and tools. I left that island and my quest has already taken me across an ocean, onto a beach, through the woods and I am currently standing at the foot of the mountain contemplating how to climb it all the way to the top.
🙂 So very sobering, my friend! Enjoy all the shear joy, the experience gives you! 🙂
Marildi, Are you listening to this ? 🙂 🙂 🙂
Xplorer of ‘free will’, it shall be then, folks! (How does that grab ya, baby? ?) 🙂
I am writing, as we speak, an article that sums up some key aspects of my coaching and mental training. I will e-mail it to those who are interested and publish it when it is ready.
Looking forward to that indeed, Geir. ….So when you are ready…..
In the meantime, whether intent on contemplating the climb ahead, (and the pain of oxygen deprivation, that will inevitably show up in the arms & legs! 🙂 ) or just simply contemplating the presentation of the recording of same, or…. perhaps the revelatory words of Kahlil Gibran in his “The Prophet” … may serve to assist you in crystallizing the totality of the experience.
Therein, imho, lays an enormous depth of wisdom and exquisite appreciation for the challenges which may be presenting themselves to you, “as we speak”
Forward ho — Geronimo!! 🙂
Btw, I am visualizing the ‘test’, of your physical preparedness for this feat, as it unfolds.
However it goes, here’s to your guts, mate. clink! clink! 🙂
Ribby (Racing in the Blood): “Accepting your substituted offering, which I do with gratitude, nevertheless has succeeded in engendering the pique of which you thpoke!”
Well thaid. 🙂
I figured you would appreciate my offering – especially with the little surprise of it being presented by some very cool Setheffricans!
And yes, Anna is a beautiful soul. You wrote: “We all need to explore our ‘shoeniverses’, by being willing to assume and receive the beingness of one another.” Anna took it even further, of course – to assuming receiving the beingnesses of all life forms!
I really meant it when I said that this is a whole new paradigm she is describing. I think the day will come that will be similar to the way we now look back and wonder how virtually every culture throughout history thought slavery in some form was okay – how they looked down on and enslaved others. Likewise, future generations will find it hard to believe that we could have treated other life forms the way we now do.
Okay, one more little treat for you. Have a look at this 3-min vid of a cat and owl that grew up together. And be sure not to miss the parts where the cat soars into the air trying to reach the owl flying overhead.
My dear, astute, live-wire, colorful raconteur Marildi. How I marvel at your range of interests, that cannot help but keep even the ‘sharpest’, on their toes!
Well, this latest round of your contributions, are testament to the above, treats ‘n all!!
All are appreciated for their (mainly) emotion appeal, if not for reminding our rat-racing brethren, to just take a moment,…. j-u-s-t a m-o-m-e-n-t to pause, or better still, to actually STOP what one is doing. To then ask: “is this all there is to my life?”
To clarify my position for you , M, me heart, when I said: ” … by being willing to assume and receive the beingness of one another” I could have been clearer by adding — as fellow earthlings! I do indeed include ALL of our panorama of life and it’s vantages of viewpoints. Myopic indeed, are the self-centered, who lock themselves into a narcissism
that refuses to recognize the bigger game of life and its diverse role players.
But I must congratulate you, for showing how one can balance one’s ‘busy-ness’, with concern and interest for our ‘fellows’ (multitude of species).
You also do a wonderful job in communicating broadly, on ‘their’ behalf!
Like Anna made clear in the first vid, (speaking for Diabolo / Spirit); (paraphrased) “I feel more relaxed now, knowing I don’t have to meet the expectations placed upon me”. (This was an amazing sharing of concern from a fellow ‘earthling’, that is almost NEVER considered by most people. Wonderful to hear and appreciate in our broader dealings, don’cha think. M, me heart? 🙂
Calvin, you are a sweetie pie. Thank you so much for all the kind words – and philosophic thoughts. ❤
Here's a vid that actually fits in with the blog post with regard to laughter and getting into "open mode."
Thanks, M! That was terrific stuff! “Laughter therapy” has been around for a while, with a number of proponents (Check out Enda Junkins), who have recognized the (therapeutic) value of a good dose of humorous outflow, turning it into self-generating theta activity, by setting “it” loose in a group setting. LOL!! Very infectious stuff, fortunately, (ha ha) hey? Hee hee?
As for the babes, ahhh, just toooo cute, man! (tee, hee) 🙂
Yes, very infectious stuff. I’d say it raises the tone level significantly. It might even take the guys beyond the level of “Boys will be boys”. Ho ho, ha ha ha. 😀
Totally duplicated, M. — Really! 🙂 Regarding my rather ‘brash’ (though sincere) attempt to resonate with you earlier me heart, perhaps it will be a tad more acceptable, if I ask whether you’ve read “The Hidden Messages in Water”, by Masaru Emoto.? (A New York Times Bestseller, btw.)
I would genuinely be surprised if you haven’t, since the realizations one may have as a result of ‘connecting’ with the simple maxims therein, seem to align so closely to the awareness I’m feeling from you.
Profound indeed, are the ‘telling’ qualities of our innocuous ‘fellow’, H2-0! 🙂
… M ?
Cal, me heart, you and I have resonated on a number of topics. Kindred spirits, we are. 😉
I haven’t read Dr. Emoto’s book but I know about his work through two consciousness researchers I like – Dean Radin and Tom Campbell. Radin did some scientific experiments which support Emoto’s claims that intention affects the ice crystals in water – i.e. its molecular structure. And Campbell’s consciousness research demonstrated that such changes occur as a result of either positive intent (relating to such things as beauty or love) bringing about more order – or negative intent (such as hate or violence) bringing about entropy (disorder).
The video below also talks about water having memory! And Dr. Emoto’s work is mentioned near the end.
Thanks for the further evidence, M, my dearest. 🙂 it can thus become even more apparent, to those ‘in tune’ with the connectedness of all life, that we ‘modern, advanced, intellectual, civilized’ human beings, (ha!) are perhaps not quite so aware as we need to be! — Given that we have assumed carte blanche to simply CONTINUE with our way of life, at the expense of (perceptably) — ALL life.
Conclusion? == How many of the population (human) get, that ‘we’ really are blissfully asleep and therefore unconscious of how UN-conscious we really are?
Your posted video (thank you, btw,) acts as a timely ALARM clock, for those who can be jolted out their ‘dominant species’ -ness!!
Love & Gratitude, (The two Universal Laws — as recognized by Emoto)
— C. 🙂
Hey there, C. Thanks for quoting Emoto on The Two Universal Laws – Love & Gratitude. Love that.
And thanks for the enjoyable discussion! Looking forward to the next one. 😉
You’re most welcome, M, me heart. 🙂
Love & Gratitude, (‘L & M’) — Gee, you know what? — It just occurred to me, that we may have stumbled, here, upon an easy reference ‘acronym’, that seems to cut to the very core of meaningful existence after all! — Laying bare, the code that permits of real honesty and resonance, with a resulting release of almost ethereal renewal? 🙂
A mantra for the overworked, overextended, under-appreciated, kindred spirits in need of an oasis of calm, to sooth the wounds and weariness of ‘battle’, perhaps.?
It seems to me, that the daily practice of ‘L & G’, in whatever form acceptable, can (and does) simply restore the ‘balance’, for ye (All), thee (Marildi), ‘n me.
Thanks must now go to YOU, and your recent video posting of “Spirit”, and the amazing telepathic comm of Anna Breytenbach, and the added vids of “Water Memory” for bringing this profound awareness into sharp focus for me, and hopefully, many other readers too!
— ’til the next (resonating) discussion, then?
‘L & G’ from me,
— C. 🙂
Hmmmmm….. After a strong cup of morning coffee, M, i have just decided to recant.
— an ‘acronym’ for Love and Gratitude (L & M?) …. Nah! definitely not a good idea!
For one thing, like the trite ‘ARC’, It becomes more like Shove & Dratitude! LOL!
And for another, it (L & G) just doesn’t communicate theta, at all!
To keep things REAL, you have to know when to say: “Fuck THAT!” and laboriously say: (only if you mean it, of course!)
Love & Gratitude,
ps. At least you can be hopeful, that when you are sincere, WATER will be accommodating, in consistently dishing up some of the finest crystals in ‘nature’.
Whew! you just DON’T want to mess with NATURE, Buddy! 🙂
Cal, my friend, I think you hit gold with this idea of “Gratitude”.
Here’s one last vid for you, to top them all off. Prepare to laugh and maybe cry. And to be moved.
Yes, M me heart, and you have just succeeded in crystallizing the concept! 🙂 I reckon we’re blessed with an intrinsic appreciation, recognition, and practice, of that which “causes” our happiness, during much of our respective journeys.
Thank YOU, for ALL your contributions, and for being a wonderful, caring friend! 🙂
The feeling is mutual, me heart. Glad I got to know you. 😉
(High five)! 🙂